Talk:Khalistan movement

Hardeep Singh Nijjar

Killed in Canada on June 2023. It's important to mention that: He was reportedly organising an unofficial referendum in India for an independent Sikh nation at the time of this death.

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 October 2024

Suggest changing "Pakistan has long aspired to dismember India through its Bleed India strategy." with "The Pakistani military has long fomented separatist insurgencies in India as part of its Bleed India strategy."

This phrasing is intended to present less bias.

Suggest replacing " Megalonychidae (talk) 19:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

See what the source says. Capitals00 (talk) 10:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 November 2024

"To date, Canada has yet to provide any evidence of Indian involvement in the killing of Nijjar." should be changed to "Canada has not shared evidence of Indian involvement in the killing of Nijar, citing the need to protect sensitive intelligence sources and methods."

Source: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canadian-authorities-have-intelligence-that-india-was-behind-slaying/

Justification The line "To date, Canada has yet to provide any evidence of Indian involvement in the killing of Nijjar." is true but lacks context. Canada has cited the need to protect sensitive intelligence sources and methods in not releasing evidence. This is standard practise in intelligence contexts. The US has also separately corroborated Canada's linking of the killing to the Indian government, stating that intelligence shared by five eyes was what made the link. (https://apnews.com/article/canada-us-india-sikh-activist-killing-intelligence-c475ac129e09e5f1c9ebf68eaaf247ab) Hex93 (talk) 12:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 13:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Canada-India diplomatic row

@Nyttend:, let's discuss the removed content here.

So I'm a bit flummoxed by your characterization of the content as not being relevant, the who row was spurred by India supposedly playing a role in the killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Khalistan leader in Canada who was involved in organizing numerous referendums in Canada surrounding the secession of Punjab from India, and he was accused by India of heading various Khalistani militant outfits. At the very, very least we need to mention that, given the significance of the event, I'd also say it should be in the lead. Following that, India and Canada expelled each others diplomats, an event that was a direct consequence of the killing, so I'd say that's relevant as well. In October 2024, Canada's RCMP alleged that Indian diplomats were involved in clandestine and covert operations which involved homicides, extortions, attacks on Sikh separatists aka Khalistanis, so how can you say that isn't relevant to the Khalistan movement? Strange.

I'm also pinging the two most recent, uninvolved editors on this page @Capitals00 and @Ratnahastin to see if they can also provide their thoughts on whether the Canada-India diplomatic row ought to be reinstated here. and if so, to what extent? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 23:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

A whole section does not belong here. Maybe a few sentences on a relevant section would be enough. Capitals00 (talk) 03:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 December 2024

Article full of Misinformation, disinformation and Indian state propegenda. Part-1.

Targeting one community: By specifically saying two Sikh men were arrested, instead it should be two men were arrested.

Missing information: Australian authorities aquated/released those two men without any charges after appearing in court.

Missing information: Pro-india mob left there assigned protest spot in Melbourne and attacked/provoked pro-Khalistan people.

During a Khalistan referendum vote held in Melbourne, Australia in January 2023 , two separate brawls broke out between Khalistan supporters and pro-India demonstrators, leading to two people being injured and two Sikh men being arrested. The Victoria Police Department issued statements afterwards:“During the fight, flag poles were used by several men as weapons which caused physical injuries to multiple victims in which two victims were treated at the scene by paramedics” and “As a result of each incident a 34-year-old man and a 39-year-old man were arrested, and each issued with a penalty notice for riotous behaviour.” Australia's High Commissioner to India Barry O'Farrell condemned the incident. Superhuman007 (talk) 21:42, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Article full of Misinformation, Disinformation and Indian state propegenda

Part-2.

Wrong discription of Amritpal Singh:

Amritpal Singh, is a Sikh activist not a self styled radical preacher, there was nothing radical in his work.

False Information: succession described as illegemate.

False Information: numerous preaching tours advocating for the creation of Khalistan. He worked against drugs and Sikh baptism only.

False information: He glorified the use of violence and weapons during public events. He never advocated for violence, keeping weapons for self defense is part of Sikh faith.

False information: alleging the organization's involvement in attempted murder, attacks on police personnel, and spreading disharmony in Punjab.

No involvement in attempted murder, no attack on police personnel, was not spreading any disharmony in Punjab.

In August 2022, Amritpal Singh, a self styled radical[140] Indian preacher, came to prominence after being appointed as the head of Waris Punjab De (a Sikh political organization which lent support to pro-Khalistan figures and groups) immediately after Deep Sidhu's death (a succession described as illegitimate by the relatives and some associates of Sidhu).[141][142][143][144] He subsequently embarked on a campaign and numerous preaching tours advocating for the creation of Khalistan and for Sikhs to receive baptism, imbibe religious austerities, and to shun drugs and other vices.[145][146] He glorified the use of violence and weapons during public events.[147] On 18 March 2023, Indian authorities initiated a crackdown on Waris Punjab De, alleging the organization's involvement in attempted murder, attacks on police personnel, and spreading disharmony in Punjab.[148] An extensive manhunt for Singh ensued, who absconded and managed to evade police capture for 35 days. He was arrested on 23 April 2023. Superhuman007 (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Article full of Misinformation, Disinformation and Indian state propegenda Part-3

False Information:

numerous violent attacks were reported in various locations. (No violent protests occurred).

False Information:

A mob of protesters attacked the Indian consulate in San Francisco, another mob attacked the Indian High Commission office in London and attempted to pull down the Indian flag off a pole, broke windows, and inflicted minor injuries on security staff.

There was no attack on Indian consulate in San Francisco, someone light up garbage dumb near the side of consulate, which was extinguished by Fire Department. Windows were not broken, security staff was not injured in London.

Pulling down a flag is not a crime in democratic countries.

False Claim/information by Rouge entity:

The NIA claimed that a group of protesters in San Francisco were exhorted to kill all representatives of the Indian government.[153] On 21 March 2023, two men poured flammable material in the entrance of the consulate and attempted to set the San Francisco consulate on fire.

No plan of killing anyone at San Francisco Consolate. San Francisco is outside of Rouge Agency NIA's area of authority.

False Information & Missing Context:

In Washington, Khalistan supporters verbally intimidated and physically assaulted an Indian journalist covering the protests.[155] In a Surrey protest, Sameer Kaushal, a journalist, was allegedly assaulted and harassed by Khalistan supporters.[156] In the aftermath of the Surrey protest, Surrey RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Vanessa Munn confirmed police were investigating alleged assault involving a different victim and that the RCMP was seeking witnesses and video evidence. She stated “There is an assault investigation into the assault of one person who was in the crowd and did appear to be swarmed and assaulted by multiple people”.

No jourlists were attacked or targetted by any khalistan supporters.

RCMP's press release information posted here in article is only 1 side of story, other side has been interntionally hidden by India state.

Misinformation:

The Indian Ambassador to the US Taranjit Singh Sandhu was threatened with assassination by Khalistanis.

It was a protest (he was asked to be accountable for his work against Sikh killings under actions of Indian government) not threatening call for assassination.

Numerous protests, particularly among diaspora Sikhs, occurred in the aftermath of the Indian police's manhunt for Singh. While many transpired without incident, numerous violent attacks were reported in various locations. A mob of protesters attacked the Indian consulate in San Francisco, another mob attacked the Indian High Commission office in London and attempted to pull down the Indian flag off a pole, broke windows, and inflicted minor injuries on security staff.[150][151][152] The NIA claimed that a group of protesters in San Francisco were exhorted to kill all representatives of the Indian government.[153] On 21 March 2023, two men poured flammable material in the entrance of the consulate and attempted to set the San Francisco consulate on fire.[154] In Washington, Khalistan supporters verbally intimidated and physically assaulted an Indian journalist covering the protests.[155] In a Surrey protest, Sameer Kaushal, a journalist, was allegedly assaulted and harassed by Khalistan supporters.[156] In the aftermath of the Surrey protest, Surrey RCMP spokesperson Cpl. Vanessa Munn confirmed police were investigating alleged assault involving a different victim and that the RCMP was seeking witnesses and video evidence. She stated “There is an assault investigation into the assault of one person who was in the crowd and did appear to be swarmed and assaulted by multiple people”.[157] The Indian Ambassador to the US Taranjit Singh Sandhu was threatened with assassination by Khalistanis. Superhuman007 (talk) 22:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)